Eve Online Review

Players start the game by either selecting a previously-created character or by creating a new one. Each Eve Online account allows for up to three characters. When a player creates a new character, they start by choosing one of the four playable races – Amarr, Gallente, Minmatar, or Caldari. Each race is further divided into three bloodlines that give characters different pre-defined appearances, which can be finely tuned by the player.

The story of this game is very interesting and very nice sci-fi styled. The design of the spaceship in this game are really well made, the planets are very good too. The interface of this game could be better.

The in-game economy in this game is an open economy that is largely player-driven. Non-player character merchants sell skill books used by players to learn new skills and blueprints to manufacture ships and modules, this is really handy and easier for players.

EVE online has some beautiful OST in the game. it’s a nice game.

Eve is basicly a windows/text game. Not Windows the program, but everything you do in Eve has pop up information windows. At any giving time you can have lots, and lots of windows opened at once.

Flight controls down right stink in the game. I know a Sci-Fi Browser game that is f2p and has way better flight controls then Eve, Training does happen in real time, and if you have 3 characters built, only 1 of the three can train, at a time.

So if you get bored with one character, make sure it is not training, while you are on a different character. The training also happens if you are logged off for the night.

I give it a 4, only because the graphics are beautiful. and Eve also has a rookie chat, for newbs, when you can talk to someone 24/7 if you run into a wall and not sure what to do next. Thankfully the rookie chats is present on some occasions.

If a game has a Chat to contact people 24/7 with simple questions, then that tells you right there how confuseing Eve is to play.

PVE- 2/10. Yes, it”s that bad. Kill x, Get item y, Bring here. over. and over. and over. Good for making money, just incredibly mind-numbing.

PvP- 7/10. Now i can see the Fanboi”s now. “no 10 for PvP???? gtfo noob” small scale PvP is nearly dead, and Large scale PvP is “let”s bring 3000 players into one system and try to crash the node!” While amazing that the server hardware can handle such load without crashing, it however was NOT playable in the least. I give EVE a 7/10 because when you do find a small scale fight (as opposed to being just another face in that 100 man fleet….) the combat is AMAZING, but it”s been awhile since ive had one of those adrenaline pumping fights, unfortunatly.

UI- 6/10 its passable for what it is. nothing spectacular, but not bad either.

Mining- 1/10 Sure, its a good money maker for the newest players. but within an hour or two, your going to want to move on to something else until your getting close to that hulk, or you hit nullsec. (0.0 space) keeping in mind mineral prices fluctuate greatly, right now mineral prices are pathetic. this is due to the HUGE influx of minerals due to macro miners and macro ratters. (drone region, im looking at YOU.)

Graphics- 9/10 Absolutely Amazing. The only faults i see are the odd glitch here and there (mentioned in previous reviews. yep. still there.)

Storyline- 4/10 You wont hang around for the story, that”s for sure. while there are small backstories to each faction, nothing moves from there. (you”d think with all the incursions each faction makes on one another in the missions, war would have broken out already. in addition to enough ore gathered (materials for war preperation mission) to build a FLEET of titans.)

Character Development 6/10 Ah, now this one is a double edged sword. Skill training in EVE is time based, and skills train (assuming they are in queue. you did fill the queue right???) if you are online or not, 24 hours a day. On the other hand looking at some skills training times is quite daunting. (battleship 5 takes how long??? lets not even get into capital ships….) It”s VERY hard for a fledgling pilot to get a foot in the door against the more advanced players, much less get ahead.

Player Base- 5/10 the most common line you will hear when describing the players in Eve is “Eve is a cold, harsh world.” Translation: You will be scammed, you will be ganked, (repeatedly) Anything most other players can do just to ruin your day, some will do. simply for the “lulz”
That being said, there are some truly great people playing Eve. People who will go out of their way to help others, and help newer players try to succeed.

Help And Support- 2/10 GM Assistance Is Passable at best (45m-24+h waits), But most of the time offer no assistance. lose something due to a bug in the game? prepare to hear the following “the logs show nothing”. found someone “bending” (no local exploit comes to mind) the rules? “the logs show nothing” find a macro miner, or macro ratter? good luck getting anything done on that one. your better off to go back to station, grab a misc battleship, and destroy them yourself, only to see them back again the next day. (i will say this. there are some miners who just refuse to answer local or comms. i used to be one of those once apon a time. but characters doing things almost roboticly, with names like fsadfhgfd, kinda look suspicious.)

Overall, Eve is a VERY deep game, something that CANNOT be played just casually. do NOT expect to jump in and hit endgame within a couple of months. Then again that”s a good thing. EVE has kept me around for 5 years now. the next expansion, Incursion, is supposed to bring more PvE into the game, So hopefully there will be improvements there. The game is VERY daunting for a new player, and its a VERY steep learning curve.

So let”s recap.

PVE-2/10.
PvP-7/10.
UI-6/10.
Mining-1/10.
Graphics-9/10.
Storyline-4/10.
Character Development-6/10.
Player Base- 5/10.
Help And Support- 2/10.

Overall review- 6/10

2. Mining: Another way to make money is mining, which isn’t that boring, because you won’t pay much attention to eve while doing it, you just have to empty your cargohold from time to time. It can become more interesting when you mine in an unsafe system, because players might kill you, as I said pvp is the only thing that makes this game interesting.
Another thing you can to in eve is crafting. Players craft almost everything in eve, but like the crafting system in most games the only interesting part is figuring out which item will make the highest profit.

3. The UI and some other things. The UI design is mediocre, the reason that a new player will have problems to find some things isn’t that eve is so super complex, it’s just hasn’t a good UI design.
Additionally there are many minor annoying things, as an example you can save which modules you user on a ship but it tends to not load the saved fitting correctly if the order is important ( if you have to fit module j before module y because module j increases the powergrid enough to fit module y.)
Another annoying thing is that you can’t just share your scanning results with your fleet and other inconvenient things like that.

4. Eve fanboy: My last negative point. An annoying part of the player base are elitist eve fanboys (just look at some of the reviews). They love everything in the game even the bad pve. And they love to bash wow and wow players (though how somebody can say that wow is a grind and still farm the eve pve content is beyond me.) Additionally they seem to think that everyone who dislikes eve just isn’t mature enough… But every game has obnoxious people so just ignore them.

So good parts:
1. Eve is beautiful. Many eve screenshots are good wallpaper Material. Since it’s plays in space it becomes boring after a while since it’s just much emptiness in pretty colors but you can’t deny that it looks good.
2.You buy almost everything from players, players control the market and since the market is split into regions and it’s dangerous to transport goods to the lawless parts there can be high price differences. If you are someone who likes to watch the market and search for good opportunities you can have much fun with eves market.
3. Player owned stations and structures. By themselves they are just cool but nothing which adds more fun to the game. What makes them interesting is that you can destroy pos and fight over station to gain control over the system, which leads me to point 4.
4. Large scale pvp. Small scale pvp in eve can be fun, but Large scale pvp of the dimensions possible in eve is unique. You just can’t have such gigantic battles in other games. And the battles aren’t useless the corps are fighting for territory. For this alone I will give eve 7 points.

But honestly if you want PVE play an MMO where it’s actually fun.

It sucks tho that the combar/movement system is really dull. There isnt even typical wasd movement – all you need to do to move somewhere is click it like in some sort of strategy. When fighting something you just click once in your hud and it will keep shooting automatically; there is no ground-mode, so u can never leave your ship to roam the station or planet (yes, you cant land on planets at all); the navigation pattern is all 2d. Kinda sucks – the game has brilliant graphics but you completely miss out on them because you mostly stare at your interface.
I know this game is unique and amazing on its own, but it would really be much much entertaining if there would be well-developed combat/movement elements like in single-player starship games or air simulators. Control your ship with joystick, aim to hit you target – this would open a whole second reality within the game with skilled pilots, adrenaline flights etc

Why only a 9 Rating? Because Eve isn’t perfect, but they continue to develop the game and CCP is rather up front with improvements. Eve is constantly evolving, continues to get better and better, and the community- for the most part, are helpful and enthusiastic to help.

First of all, I would like to comment on the great community. There are practically none of the kill stealers, elitists (bossy types), and any other of the gaming jerks. The ones you do see are rookies, and all the higher ups overpower them and usually they end up quitting EVE altogether.

The game masters (administrators) are excellent. They are very easy to contact, reason with, and they all enforce the rules very well. Once I had 2 old ships that I needed to get rid of, and one of my buddies wanted to test his new battleship weapons. I agreed to let him test them on my new ships, and on the next day, he gets a message warning him about luring rookies into situations that kill them. Good work GMs.

The combat and missions are bland and repetitive. Your weapons upgrade, in about every aspect, but that’s about it. Usually you orbit or keep a ship at range, lock on, then activate your weapons and equipment. The missions all consist of “Kill this”, “Move this to there”, or “Kill this, take this from it, and bring it here” usually.

The graphics are just plain staggering. The stars are beautiful, the ships are extremely detailed, everything is extremely detailed.

The game is a little hard on rookies, because of its amazing complexity. It takes a good three weeks in EVE to fully understand the entire game. However, the game’s great community usually helps most of the newbies through. There is even a “Rookie Chat” option, where some GMs and many players ask and answer questions of rookies.

EVE does involve some grinding, in the form of mining. Mining is one of best ways to make money. It takes a very long time though, and gets boring after a while.

The size of the game is massive. There landmarks, which are within solar systems, which are within regions, which are within New Eden (The Universe).

Players can create their own corporations, and these corporations can form alliances. This allows for many many possibilities, from huge player driven wars, to strip mining of entire systems in extreme low security space, and discovering anomalies no one has ever seen before.

EVE does almost everything right in a space game. The game takes more patience than anything else. Combat gets bland after several battles, and other things in the game are very time consuming, sometimes repetitive. Everything else is phenomenal.

Going to break down what eve is for those who are reading these posts so they have a better understanding.

EVE main concept: Eve is a player driven world where npc’s have little effect. the main ways they do have effect is providing some pve(although terrible) in order to make money, providing some chances for new players to understand the beginning of the game and get some basics not by saying fire at this and equip this but by putting you into contact with the concepts of flying a ship and running trade routes. The bigger impact they have is enforcing security status and people who wish to pk in empire space which is npc controlled part of eve. PK’s can still get around this ofcourse since it is a player driven game. Next you have rats in belts which are npc controlled ships that can give you isk (money of eve) and items (either by dropping them or if you salvage the wrecks) then you have complexes which are npc areas in which many npc ships are located there are levels to this which means harder or easier depending. Wormholes are another area there are NPC’s which is also the best way to make money imo doing pve unless you have multiple accounts and are strip mining in 0.0 and have the capacity to transport all that good ore. This is a quick look at the pve in eve lets recap—–missions: transport, kill rats=isk, Rats in asteroid belts= bounty=isk, complex=lots of rats=lots of isk, Wormhole= the best isk making in game imo, and last but not least mining can make good money but time consuming–always a grind while the others can be done quickly for spurts of isk.

Char abilities are based on sp or skill points trained in real time- you buy skill books and train can log out for however long you want and the training will continue until it is done, I suggest you train learning skills the first tier to 4 and just make money with missions until their all done will help allot in the long run.

PVP– in depth pvp system including different damage types and builds, any one ship can be outfitted for different roles in any gang or for solo. Generally want to roll in a group from 2-10min up to large fleets which I have seen 167 ships in one fleet action. Pvp is available from the start but you must understand what might happen to you in high sec (space within empire which is high security 0.9 to 0.0, 0.9 to 0.5 is relatively safe except for large logistic ships transporting high value items, 0.4-0.1 are lower secure points and the npc police known as concord will only react at gates and stations within these systems so pking in the belts or by planets is free game, 0.0 has no concord and no hit on your sec score also player controlled most space in 0.0 is claimed by alliances and will kill you in most cases, some areas their real nice and are anti-pirate. don’t have enough sp[ace to explain all pvp but it goes from flying around in small little ships to flying giant monsters every ship with its purpose and multiple builds for many of them to fill multiple roles. I myself at 2 months playing destroyed a miner in .3 space who had been playing for a year then offered for him to come back and get his stuff back that wasn’t destroyed, I proceeded to destroy him 3 more times (this doesn’t mean I’m good this means he knew what I was flying and had a chance to counter and just did a poor job) Eve offers for lower sp chars chance to still kill higher sp chars, sp is what you can fly and how you can outfit it not how good or uber you are. Lower sp char can still do well for themselves.

There are five basic paths, PvPer, miner, manufacture, ratter and trader. Now you can combine these anyway you wish and these are the basics. I myself have chosen battle and there for put all my training time into combat ships and abilities. Wormholes and complex’s are my main ways of making isk.

You can become a corporation ceo or an alliance leader, a general or a foreman for a manufacturing company, a solo man in empire (not really much of an option in 0.0), a pirate killing players to make money, a mercenary hiring out to the highest bidder or a pirate killer. There are so many directions you can go or take your corp. to.

Pve is not meant to be like a quest their mission’s simple as that straight to the point with a little background on that mission. The news in the game in driven by the players, 0.0 space is owned by players and massive wars are fought for this territory (which gives mining rights, moons, soon planets, complexes, and wormholes) where money is made. Why make money in eve if there is no carebear pve well simple to buy and outfit ships to make more money and to fight in. Player conflict is what eve is about with an economy that is unmatched in any game. You can also pay for your subscription within game isk BTW.

Eve is boring at first but if you can make it past the first two weeks or so you can start having a lot of fun. This game is not a carbear pve friendly place it is a galaxy of danger and intrigue (created by the players which is awesome) where great wealth can be made. Where the player can cause a giant war or lead his fleet and be a hero. This game has more depth to it than any other mmo I have played, sure not much pve but that doesn’t even compare to the player made content such as alliances, corps, pirates, traders, manufacturers and just Joe in his ship flying around. This game is for the player and made by the player.

Jump into this game knowing that it’s a rough start that will pay off in so many ways that other mmo’s simply can’t.

A few things you should know:
1)This is a complex MMO. As in, one of the most complex I’ve ever seen. The PvE is weak, fine, but the economy is entirely player-driven, and money in EVE actually does translate into power. Actual player Corporations fight over entire solar systems, pirates (real players) exist in low-security systems, and you have to think on your feet to keep your wallet filled. There’s actually a player contract system, whereby you can do tasks for other players for a payoff. Screw PvE, you can actually cheat the “questgiver” here. Or do the task, and maybe they’ll contact you in future.

2)You HAVE to work with others. This game sucks when playing solo, don’t even try. Whatever you do, make sure you’ve got some friends you can trust and a Corporation to fall back on if things get nasty. Form strong trade links with others, have a strong Corporation to fall back on if you’re attacked or being BSed in a trade deal, find people you can trust, and you’re covered. Which brings us on to number three:

3)Trust no-one as a noob. Yep, you heard it. In a game that’s all about player interaction, with no faction loyalty except what’s decided by the player, it’s awfully easy to get stabbed in the back. Playing the vulnerable noob and asking for help might actually cause more harm than good. I recommend doing a little bit of mining in high-security areas as solo work, and then joining a Corp once you’ve got cash and you’re sort of on your feet. That way, people might respect you rather than think of you as a noob. If that’s not enough to convince you, here are some of the myriad ways in which you can be screwed with: If you’re in a low-security area, you’ll be attacked and killed 6 out of 10 times. If you decide to transport illegal goods for a sweet price on advice from a shady “friend” in a pirate corp, you might be killed in a no-security system by your “friend”‘s Corp. Chances are, it was all a setup, this person who you’ve known for a few days isn’t very nice at all, and now you can’t run to the cops because you were ferrying illegal goods. In EVE, you’re guaranteed as a new player to lose the first decent ship you buy. You’ll have to find your limits, find people you can actually trust, and think on your feet.

3)It takes time. Training a skill to level 5 (max) on the skill queue (skills train all the time when on the queue, even when you’re offline) takes me between 38 and 52 days, real-time (not playtime, thank god). Also, you’re going to have to put in quite a bit of work if you’re starting out by mining, and to stay prosperous (and alive), you’ll need to stay smart and keep with current events, which means playing more often. It’s quite a big time investment.

4)This is more of a tip as I saw nycsnake complaining about losing a ship that he saved for to gankers in his review: Don’t ever put the majority of your cash into one purchase. If the ship you bought and upholstered goes, then all of it goes, cargo included. Never, EVER spend all your cash on a single product; you’re guaranteed to suffer for it. Rule of thumb for ships- If it’s important to your current job, make sure you can afford four more at upmarket price.

Having said all of this, EVE is honestly a beautiful MMO. Fine, it’s not noob-friendly, but Mortal Online seems to be the same thing, and yet people can’t seem to shut up about it. The possibilities after you’ve started are epic in proportion, and varied as anything. Feeling suicidal? Mine rare ore in a fast ship in zero-security space. Have lots of good contacts for resources? Go into manufacturing; making things in bulk can earn you a packet. In need of a thrill, tired of the law? Hook up with some pirate Corporations, buy the fastest ship you can, and run drugs between star systems. Hell, you can even become a member of the Interstellar Council, whose job it is to deal with pressing in-game issues (such as Corporation power struggles and maintaining peace in high-security space, as well as all laws and legislation).

In terms of scores:
Graphics- on high settings, they look great, CCP have completely nailed the whole “space” feel of it. Haven’t faced the UI issues of Mr. Cynic, though, as I’m on 1280×800. Also, on my HP Pavillion Dv5, it runs on high settings without a hitch.
8/10 (for the UI issues mentioned by Mr Cynic)

Sound- Again, no problems here, and I like the sounds for warp drives and thrusters, again, a very strong sci-fi vibe from those.
8/10

Gameplay- Nothing else like it on the market. Complex, sophisticated and immensely difficult, CCP has created an MMO that really is completely player-driven. The number of options available to you once you’re set up is staggering, and the variety of experiences that come with those options is just as epic in scale. It is a bit slow, however, though that’s not a problem for me.
12/10 (i mean it)

Crafting/production: You won’t be able to mass-produce ships from the get-go, but the sheer variety of items you can make (almost everything in the game) is great, and this makes up for the lack of innovation in the actual crafting process. Just wait for it to finish, that’s all. However, everything from ships to weapons to blueprints can be manufactured.
9/10

Storyline- Again, points to CCP for making this player-driven. Because everybody’s on one server, player interactions actually carry weight since they affect the whole player-base. The story essentially writes itself. For example, a few years ago, the Alliance (group of Corporations) Band of Brothers was disbanded. Now, these guys were immensely powerful, and vast chunks of zero-security space belonged to them. However, a high-ranking member disbanded every Corp in the Alliance instantly, and that left a massive power gap and loads of free land. So, for months afterwards, there were all-out wars between Corps for these systems. It’s part of the story. Also, search “EVE Investment Bank scam” on Google, yet another example of how epic a story can be when driven by players.
10/10 (for a story that can be shaped by us, the players. The only truly interactive experience out there in terms of story)

Player interaction- This game’s all about interacting with others, nothing better than this in that respect. ‘nuf said
10/10

Overall (not average result): 10/10. Until something else does what EVE can do in terms of player interaction and gameplay options, this rating will stay the same. It’s polished, it’s brutal, and it’s unique. If Mortal can touch this, then Star Vault should be very, very proud.

Eve Online has spectacular looking graphics, with amazing looking planets, and metalic effects on the various spaceships, but it is totally let down by the font size on the games User Interface when you play the game at high resolution on large screen size monitors. Coupled with this is the total indifference of the CCP dev team to this issue despite numerous complaints in the Eve Online forum.

You can only enlarge the UI font to 12 points, which makes the lower case letters at 1920 x 1200 2mm high, and no more.

If you have a 17 inch monitor you’ll be fine at its default resolution of 1024 x 768, as the lower case letters are 3mm high, and the icons on the left of the screen ar a comfortable 10mm high, but if you have a now standard 24 inch monitor or larger at its default resolution of 1920 x 1200 or higher then your eyes will not be happy as you squint and try to read the tiny text on the UI when you are sat at a comfortable distance from the screen. The same effect is if you play at HD resolution or 1920 x 1080.

You can have a comfortable text size that can be read at 1024 x 768, or you can play the game with HD graphics, but you canot do both at the same time…yet.

Graphics- 10
The graphics in this game are unbelievable. Everything from warp drive effects, to planet and spaceship graphics. If i wanted to sound very cliche I would give graphics 100/10

Gameplay-10
Probably the hardest good game to get used to, but once I got used to it it made so much sense. There are missions in this game given to you by contractors, but to get away ahead in the game you really have to break away from these and do your own thing. The interface is awesome my 4 year old niece figured out how what buttons did what. Strategy has a steep learning curve, much like real life but for me it was a fun learning process.

Game options-10
The possibilities in this game are endless. If you get into this game you will never be able to do everything. It just can’t be done. Not even close. At all. Don’t even try.

Ships and Items- 9.5
Everything is great as far as ships and items. The only reason i didn’t give it a full 10 is because i haven’t really explored mass produced ships and items.

PvP-10
Not being a very PvP oriented guy, i tend to want to downgrade this number, but a deeper look at the pvp really took my breath away. Its such a relief to actually see huge battles going on between countless ships. Again here is where WoW fails. There is no giant battles. The biggest I have seen in WoW are the top end raids; the biggest in Eve i have seen are 1000+. The next great part of this PvP is the strategy involved. A tactical team of less people will always beat a slightly larger, less organized, fleet. Again WoW, and others, fail here; if your a higher level in WoW, you win.

Player Interaction-10
Now here is where i expect a lot of disagreement. What makes this game better then a 10 is the fact that you can steal, con, fraud, lie, loot , and other wise make peoples lives miserable without worrying about getting banned. So you trusted someone a little to early and gave him all you ISK. Thats your issue. Maybe it will teach you a real life lesson. On the other had you can share, help, defend, and befriend anyone as well. This is what makes this game revolutionary.

Story line-(2-10/10)
Im not sure how to rate the story line, as this game really has very little story line to rate. While I think this is what makes this game have so many options (which makes me think 10), it also kind of takes away what we all know and enjoy about our favorite video games. Yes this game has a bit of a story line but it in no way plays a role in how you can play this game. So Im gonna leave in in a broad range of two – ten of ten

Conclusion-10
This game is a revolution in MMO, but just like so many other things, it is held back by the normal, mundane things that “reinvent the light bulb” every day.
Think outside the box when playing this game. Get out of the “WoW” frame of mind

EVE Online is a well balanced game no matter how you play your RPGs.
The game allows you to follow any path/profession that interestes you as deep or not as you want to go.
Everything from bounty hunting, to all out galactic warfare.
From mining to building capital class ships.
From trading your items and playing the markets to trading shares and industrial espionage.

As for the more RPG parts of the game skill training does take sometime but perseverance pays off in a very very big way, and whether you are a ‘healer’ type or ‘warrior’ type of player you can fit your ships accordingly whether you in a Basilisk (Caldari tech2 Fleet support) repairing your fleet mates shield from the sidelines, or flying your Crow (interceptor) preventing you enemies escaping while your fleet balsts them down or holds them to ransom, or getting stuck balls deep into a close range torpedo ‘punch-up’ with a Navy Issue Raven.
= D

The only drawbacks to this game are the serious advantage that long term players have over the newbies, but as a newbie your going to spend the first few months training skills and picking up techniques in empire space (the safer areas).

My advice for ppl wanting to try this game grab a trail account, get out of the NPC corp as soon as you can, and join some players so you will have ppl to guide you and help you out or you wont really get a feel for the game.

Its a fairly steep learning curve but after a couple of weeks u’ll be confident in your actions. The most adictive thing about this game is that you will never stop learning, with regular updates CCP constantly keep this game cutting edge with GFX and sound updates, they have just introduced wormholes and tech 3 ships, to keep us on our toes.

I myself run a mining corporation, worth over 10 billion ISK which i started when i was merely a month old. and if paying monthly for a game pisses you off as much as it does me, YOU CAN PAY WITH IN GAME CURRENCY!!!! All you gotta do is mine enough, sell enough, or kill enough and thats your next month of gaming sorted.

Its also nice to have a game not populated by whiney teens, i’d say average age in this game is mid 20s, but i have seen players from 8 – 60.
Good on you oldskool gamers!!

GFX 9.5
Ships/Items 9
Interactivity/Events 9
Gameplay 9
Social 9

Overall 9/10
Learning Curve 8

as you can see, this is VERY boring, but thats because the PLAYER is boring NOT the game, i currently have a low sec wh corporation and we do things almost all the time, this is a great game for people with some intelligence to work together and not to play by them selves

To all the newbs who say this game is unfair. If you are a mouse in a lion and leopard world you have to sneak like a mouse if you want to taste the cheese. Otherwise you have to live under the floorboards eating scraps till you are big enough or you have enough mice gathered around you to carve a slice of cheese for yourself.

Take the trail and see for yourself. There are many aspects to this game, don’t just try one.

PS If you do try it join EVE Uni ASAP! They’re a great corp who will help make learning the game a hell of a lot easier!

For me, one of the best thing about this game, is the lack of immature, I want it all kids, (age is not a factor there). Well, you do get them, but they dont last beyond the trial.

Another appealing thing is the fact that all the negative aspects of other MMO’s that are frowned upon or banned out right, are actually encouraged in EVE. From scamming, conning, ganking, cheating, ransoming, piracy, or just killing your fellow players for the sake of it. Its all good!

Finally, its one world with EVE. No, its thousands upon thousands of worlds. Its one universe. The game isnt split onto several servers. It all happens on one main server. So, theres no running off to another server if you make a fool out of yourself, or if you dont like PVP. Its upto you to watch what your doing. I like that. Theres no care bears in EVE folks. 9/10, (the only reason it isnt 10/10, is to leave room for improvement).

You can loose your oh-so-beloved ship which costs millions of ISK (Inter Stellar Kredits) in 5 seconds if you are THAT stupid to fly carelessly in a 0.0 security stargate, but hey its your fault not game’s. Plus it’s nice that risk exists, otherwise this would be a dolly-molly girls game kinda The Sims. Then, you are free to be a pirat yourself, but WAIT! only in low security systems. Life in high security systems is 99.9% sure but less profitable, as it should be.

About worst thing, these are the bots. Many people download , install and run illegal bots which do mining operations etc. while you are totally away from keyboard. This means you run the bot, go away to school/job whatever for 8 hours, then go back home enter the game and there is 5.000.000 units of veldspar mineral waiting to be refined and sold for tons of ISK

IMPORTANT: It’s meant for long-term playing, which means every childish immature and impatient dude gets out of this game in just 2 days. Ridiculous, but great at the same time (this way only mature people keep playing). Dont get me wrong, there are a few of those “yo!!!!! im the rulerzzzzz of da universe hahhahaha” but they are like 0.1% of the total. The long-term thing plus it costs 12-15$ per month allows Eve Online to be a serious game for serious players.

The GMs are not helpful and not friendly, dont even bother submitting a petition because they have no record of anything.

The concept has potential, but if you haven’t been playing it for years you probably won’t be. Hopefully a company will step up and take this genre to greater imaginative depths and fund its technological and content growth.

As it stands, this is basically the space trading game we played on dial-up BBSs in the 80s with 12 quests and a GUI. Your skills are real-world timed and continue to train while you’re offline; though there isn’t a way to queue up skills for training. This is only relevant in the first few weeks of play because after that each new skill will take weeks, months and eventually years to learn. If you didn’t start when EVE rolled out, you’ll never be as skilled as those who did.

Ignoring all the wrong information and people flaming the game from what is a bad or overly great opinion. You’ll find EVE online to be a massive community which you can roam just about anywhere, within about a good 1000 odd systems. Planets arent inhabitable, generally. It goes with realism to a point what other planet do we know today has life or can support life? The story behind eve and where the humans came and went too shed lights on this game. This game isnt just for combat pvp-ers. Its for anyone. Businessmen and women. Marketers. People who love building empires of production. People who love logistical fields. Researchers. Its everything the real world has. Stock markets, mass markets, production of ships (like cars) customisation the lot. Its a very mature environment. The forums hold stories of peoples characters in eve as they develop and become their own boss or someone high in the corperation they exist in. Alliances fight alliances, construction of giant space stations in their own areas of space, who fight against any and everyone. Safer zones with mainstream stations for those who like doing trading, mining and production, and bigger populated shipped areas for the sellers and so forth. Its a shame this game isnt slightly cheaper and an easier control system for ships. Which is probably the only downside for the more experienced and mature gamer in todays MMORPG world.
14 days to try it out. It isnt satisfying, at first, even for me. But you soon learn that a few months down the line, your making money (inter-stellar credits: being the currency) and contributing to the economy of Eve 🙂
((Or become one of those nasty pirates who go around blowing some innocent cargo ship full of nice bounties, and be hated by most people in the game, earning your ISK the true criminal way. much like today. 🙂 ))
Visit places like evetimecodes and shattered crystal for the cheapest 60day time codes to play the game rather than with a credit/debit card!!

if you like grinding and waiting.

Graphics are amazing, gameplay is excellent, but in order to advance at first you have to spend a LOT of time mining useless ore. Game concept can be quite confusing at first as there is so much going on at one time, but once you get the hang of it it’s not so bad. The “permanent” price for dying though is what I found interesting the most: once your ship blows up, you don’t restart at some graveyard and that’s it. If you’re not insured, you’re ship is gone… FOR GOOD. >=D

If you can tolerate a bit of grinding and the EXCRUCIATINGLY long time periods to raise skills, then this game is worth a go.

Pros
-Amazing graphics
-Very nice people(very rare in MMO’s)
-Mature players. no 12 year olds 😀
-Player driven. The players control the game
-Very deep. never run out of things to do.
-Money making. It’s not impossible but it takes time to make it.
-Amazing Gameplay. Just yeah.. 🙂

There is many many more PROS but i can’t think of any at the moment =P

Cons
I cant think of any for this game 🙂

Conclusion Pretty much. if you are looking for a long term MMO to play this is a game for you. don’t try and play this for a weekend and stop put the time in at the start and you will enjoy it highly. no questions asked.

Fly safe all & Fly Gallente 🙂

PROS:
-Massive Soundtrack(even if some of it does sound alike)
-Very nice community(the only reasons questions wont get answered in rookie support is because theres so many of them; like 4k people there)
-Amazing Gameplay
-Huge variety of quests
-Realistic economy(players can manufacture almost everything in the game;prices rise and fall between regions-makes trading profitable)

CONS:
-UNBELIEVABLE unbalanced towards the Caldari; officially dubbed the “Chose Race” of EVE, they get almost all the updates and coolest ships
-Long skill training times(balances game but its very annoying to have to wait 5 weeks…)
-All the good ores are in the 0.0 systems, but most have already been mined
-Lag in some systems, especially Caldari ones
-Enemies wont usually fire at drones first
-Costs a lot of money…only a little less than WoW =(

10/10 for an amazing game

1. Serious lag issues, and
2. CCP’s complete lack of acknowledging the problem or doing anything about it.

In my view, getting an average of 2 – 3 second lag is NOT good when you’re in a game situation that calls for quick action.

Customer service can be somewhat frustratriong as well, especially so since you’re usually in a foul mood when you file a petition. It doesn’t improve your disposition any when the response you get is quoting the rules at you, about why you’re not going to be in any way compensated.

Other than this, the game rocks IMHO. New players who expect to come in and rule a chunk of the galaxy by month 2 are going to be sadly disillusioned, this game DEFINITELY is not for the ‘lone wolf’ style of player.

Gamers will quickly find that the death penalty COMBINED with the difficulty in accumulating wealth generate a game experience that outright holds them in contempt.

Absorbing crippling losses is the norm in this game. Lineage II players look at EVE and go “damn, that’s too hardcore for me.”

“Player-driven” means that your opponent always decides how hard you have to work to beat them, and it’s generally the same: AS HARD AS POSSIBLE. Do you want to put in seventy to ninety hours a week?

Lastly and most importantly, “player-driven” means that CLOUT is the real currency of this game. Anyone who’s that good at uniting people under common goals ought to be OUT IN THE REAL WORLD MAKING A DIFFERENCE. Anyone who can’t will again find themselves facing a wall made of contempt.

Stay away from EVE Online. You won’t regret it.

Pros:
Mature Community (My GOD this is so rare in MMORPGs now)
Amazing Graphics
Very deep gameplay
Well balanced
Free-Form

Cons:
It takes a while to get good, you need patience to accumulate the wealth and skills to fly T2 battleships. The steep learning curve is rewarding for those skilled enough to master it quickly, and weeds out the noobs that have no buisiness playing (and ruining, since the game is largely player driven) such a well made game anways.

In response to some of the dumb complaints I’ve read:

Bad community: Several thousand people beg to differ…There are aholes as always, but most of the players are helpful. This is a PvP game, carebears, please GTFO.
Can’t land on planets: Riiiight..CCP is gonna texture the several tens of thousands of planets and moons on there in a SPACE game so you can walk around and do…what exactly?? Have you even considered that, OR the logistical ramifications of landing a huge ass ship on a planet, and lifting off again?
One Race is Severly outweighed: I assume you mean that Caldari are OPed or that Amarr suck? The game is well balanced, with the exception that Amarr lasers really do stink in PvP, but they are fixing that soon. The other races are all very much balanced, the reason that everyone and their mother rolls Caldari is probably because they are like the race’s corporate model.

Betrayal: again, ANYTHING goes in the game, if you get backstabbed, yes, you are pissed, it’s painful, etc. etc. Remember that IT’S JUST A GAME. If you allowed someone that you didnt implicitly trust into a position to do serious damage to you or your corp, you have noone to blame but yourself.

Nothing to do but trading: Lol..just lol…

Combat Sucks: Umm..no, what you MEAN to say was probably “I didn’t get far enough or bothered to learn about the mechanics of combat, i think it’s really as simple as point and click”. Eve combat has some definite upsides:
You can’t kill what you can’t target (ECM)
and
You can’t kill what you can’t hit (Range and Speed Tanking)
PvP is roughly 40% knowledge of equipment and fittings, 30% Quality of ship and equips, 30% real time skill.

This is a matter of personal opionion, but Eve overall is far superior to any Fantasy Hack’nSlash I’ve ever played (And i’ve played quite a few, Rappelz, WoW, Maplestory, Guild Wars, etc)

You”ve probably heard this a thousand times.

Why would I spend the amount of money this game demands for the bad game play? Two words Im NOT.

If I were to spend money on a game It would be world of warcraft, because of its depth.

Don”t get me wrong this game isn”t bad. Its just asking too much.

Pro:
Nice graphics
Nice PvP
Nice ships
Good background”s

Con:

Bad community
Badly designed planets
You can”t land on planets
You can never see you character.
Your a pod :O
One race is severely out weighed.
And the crusher, the choppy interfacce – GTFO.

Cons weigh out the pros:

As a hardcore gamer in my books this game fails.
40%
Notice i didn”t include the subscription fee”s in cons? Thats for this

Post Date: 07:11 30-01-2008
Rating: 10
Author: chopster
Comment: Great PvP game with a more depth than Guild Wars and World of Borecraft combined. Best space game ever. You get what you pay for. Stop whining about subscriptions!

happily playing along, one day I come back to a permabanned account. luckily I was on the trial account, but I try the channels for petitions and other forms of communicating with CCP directly about this. No response. come back a little later, and the account on the website to use the petitions is also permabanned same as the account for playing. I change locations to 10 miles away, use a friends hardware, and the same circumstance pops up again 5 days later. Eve O is a great game, IF you can play it.

“missifrit > my whole area is ban city, not just one person but a whole large area, thanks a lot CCP a-holes.
Chelone > tip: they didn’t hear you
missifrit > no, they log everything
missifrit > its like nazism at its best
Chelone > uh huh
Chelone > and why would tey “ban” an “area”
missifrit > u tell me
Chelone > do you live in china?
missifrit > travel 10 miles, new account at a friends house with their computer, and same thing, banned
missifrit > haha, no.
Chelone > same credit card?
missifrit > trial accounts dont ask for credit cards
Viny928 > what is wrong missifrit?
missifrit > CCP.
Viny928 > ahh sry i am new pls tell me what the means >_<
Chelone > well, the GMs may be cold, unfeeling despots but they do not have psychic powers as far as I know
missifrit > yeah if they did they wouldnt be so irresponsible, maybe
Zatris > what part of the world are you in?
NotFink > i was a paying customer but an obvious game glitch and i lose a cheap ship and clone but they won’t reimburse, and i said screw it, they don’t want me for a customeer i guess
missifrit > zatris U.S.
Zatris > do you and you mate use the same ISP?
missifrit > probably, theres only 3 where I live
missifrit > and we try to get the fastest one
Mi baby > what kind of a glitch cost you your ship and clone?
Zatris > most companies i know will block areas of IP address if the ISP are irresponsible IE (spamming websites and the likes)
missifrit > wow thats totally unfair.. its not like I can change ISPs with a 200$ contract.
Vorsux Milhana > Mi baby > what kind of a glitch cost you your ship and clone? <<<what he said
missifrit > cant be free from it til nextyear
Zatris > i would check and see if they are blacklisted, most BL will be lifted in 24hours
missifrit > its been 5 days..”

EvE is a game where dying (or at least losing a ship) is often a very significant event and not just a minor inconvenience.

Having said that you can be attacked anywhere I should also point out that some systems are ‘safer’ than others in the sense that retaliation from the NPC police for acts of aggression (outside of a formally declared war) can be swift and decisive – although not always in time to save the victim. Each system has a security rating from 1.0 to 0.0, with 0.0 being the lawless frontier.

Also the sort of player who is likely to want to kill you can often not venture into systems with sec of 0.5 or higher as each individual has their own security status based on their prior actions.

Combat is actually a pretty abstract affair, you select you target and fire your weapons – usually the person with the best ship/fittings wins. Player skill is manifested in terms of outfitting a good PVP ship and understanding the strengths and limitations of both themselves and the enemy.

One of the most appealing things for the casual player is the nature of character development. There is no such thing as experience points and leveling. Characters get better by learning new skills which are acquired simply by setting the skill to train and waiting for a certain amount of time (a few minutes for basic skills, over a month for the most advanced) to pass.

This means that the player who can only log in for a few hours each week is not necessarily disadvantaged compared to the power-gamer who never sleeps – except in terms of the accumulation of wealth.

Unfortunately for the casual player wealth is a big deal because the penalties for ship loss can be very high.

As with many mmorpgs the social aspect of EvE is based around the guild concept. Players can form corporations that have options for taxation and profit sharing, and facilitate large ventures such as space station creation. Corporations can join together to form alliances, and can declare war on other corps/alliances.

When corporations are at war the NPC ‘guards’ won’t intervene even if the firing starts right under their noses.

The free for all nature of EvE dictates a strong PVP focus, but there are still PVE options based around completing combat or fedex missions for NPCs. PVE is in fact necessary for players to make money, either in the context of missions or just ad hoc encounters.

In summary EvE is not for the faint hearted – if you feel pain and frustration when dying in WoW you will probably hate EvE. But if you subscribe to the theory that greater risk leads to greater rewards (not in terms of loot, but personal satisfaction), then EvE is definitely worth a look.

There’s a graphical overhaul on its way that will really put this game well above all others on every aspect. I can’t wait!

Once upon a time in Eve Online, a famous guild leader with a secret corporation recruited this newbie who would grow to be the 2nd in command of the guild. After getting far in Eve, he rose up the ranks to a 2nd in command ( sorry for repetition) and he saw a bounty on his guild leader. He also learned aout the guild bank with over billions of SDK or w/e and how it was at least worth thousandds of US bills. At that moment, this man began his 6 month planning of the guild leader”s assasination. However, the way he did it was astonishing and unfortunately, very similiar to the Al Queda Recruiting system where the only person you know is your recruiter, so if you rat, you have nobody to rat on. After planning for months, he told his guild leader to come travel in space with her frigate and her great gear to show power. Well, that was her downfall…….. and after travelling shortly, the trap sprung. Suddenly, 6 pirates ships hired by the 2nd in command turned to the leader. The 2nd in command replied,” I”m sorry I have to do this” and he froze her inplace and shot her to piecies taking everything and looting the guild bank, giving very little to the people who helped. Today, this man still roams the galaxy, but however is low key after the assasination of the Guilding Hand guild or something like that. Yes this makes the game very fun, but risky. Many other events have occured and are similiar but this was voted most significant in the PC game magazine. Currently I play LOTRO ( Lord Of The Rings Online) on Brandywine, and my name is kazalor- level 50 captain if ya need me. If you wish to continue, good luck, as for me, I”m gonna go smoke some Longbottom Leaf In the Shire!

Cons: No skill involved. Killing as a ship means pointing an clicking with no flying skill necessary (disappointing). Also, only dedicated players will exceed in this game, because of the immense amount of time it takes to become established.

As a newbie, keep your head low and stick to missions to get some better ships -> don’t go exploring out into systems with no security, as you will become fodder for roving PVPers.

Overall, it’s worth the 14 day trial to see if it is a fit, but don’t pay unless you are sure you’re going to put in a few months.

Compared to any other MMO I have played their in game and admin/billing staff are absolutely the most courteous and helpful.

It is little weird that every ship you fly has something to do with an animal, sea-creature, or bug. Give them a break cause you get to use nuclear weapons!

It’s true this is not your normal MMORPG and even they admit it’s not for everyone. It’s also true in my opinion that it is the best P2P.

P.S. If you are anti-social and/or have bad manners; you will probably find yourself having no one to chat with (most likely true with any game though).

Some people will find the ships are a little odd looking. They are completely original, but very few have any symmetry at all. I suppose that in space, there is no need for symmetry.

Pros:
EVE-Online gets a lot of things right. The ships last forever, unless they are completely destroyed in battle. There is no “decay” or “durability” that causes them to wear out over time. The ships also do not require fuel to move. They have an onboard fusion reactor that powers the ship – this is great because you don’t have to do mundane tasks like “refuel”. The Player Owned Structures require hydrogen fuels, but not the ships. The player gets to focus on the fun tasks.

Very mature community, a big plus. Lots of stuff to do. Many missions to run, mining, production, and plenty of PVP.

Cons:
I dislike the fact that the devs have used their powers to cheat. I also dislike how many items are listed in the item database, yet are not actually in the game.

All in all a great game. Download the trial and see if you like it.

BEST ADVICE I CAN GIVE:
If you are interested in playing eve, do not forget this. DO NOT FLY A SHIP YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE. Live by this rule, and you will LOVE the EVE ONLINE experience.

One of the only reasons this game gets negative comments is from the mass amount of WoW fanclub members and other immature video game players who don’t understand the game. If you play, finish the tutorial and at least play until you get your first ship! The tutorial is the most boring part, but what game doesn’t have a boring tutorial? Once you finish the tutorial and start playing for real, you will be addicted immediately. Most of the immature people quit before the first day (it’s why I quit once and tried it again later), and this leads to a great, wholesome, mature, enjoyable community of about 20,000 people on the server at a time!

Every element that exists in this game is great, even the mining is fun! New content is constantly being added, so you never run out of PvE content as far as skills or the world goes. If you see the map, you’ll be in awe since there are tons of zones to explore, tons of quests to do, tons of PvP action, tons of skills, and just tons of everything! Almost everything is player driven, from the economy to some storylines. You can alter the entire world. Some people decide to be pirates and intercept other ships for money, others are miners, others crusade against NPC and player pirates and collect bounties and glory (in the eyes of the miner you might have saved).

This is the most in-depth, perfectly made MMORPG ever. It will be the symbol of great MMOs for a long time to come. Community, depth of gameplay, amount of content, PvP, and PvE. Everything great about MMOs, this game has it. One of the best things is there are no immature people spamming “WTB RUNESCAPE ACCOUNT!!!” and the like.

If you can hang in there at the beginning then the rest is gravy. Your skills give you better ships to fight, mine or haul. Frigates are fast and battleships are tough and then you get to capital ships that are just stupidly hard and need big group of players to use and support.

The market is complicated and player driven. The whole game is deep but when you learn it’s easy to use.

I’d say that you need to play for six months and try hard to learn. After that the universe is yours to master. And possibly you could have hundreds of players following your command if you prove yourself worthy.

Ten out of ten.

IMO this is not the games problem rather than interesting approach to the interplay between what CCP initially intended for the game and human nature being what it is… erm varied lol

Great graphics, fleet battles, piracy, empire building… choose your pleasure its all here

Pirates and griefers, including the obligatory e-bayers, seem to have taken over the game, which CCP have made no effort to address.

Customer support sucks too. Slow response times and automatically generated responses. It gets irritating when you lose a ship due to a game bug that has taken weeks to pay for and CCP stiff you on it.

Should have been everything Elite could never have been at the time. Ultimately very dissapointing. Great idea, lousy execution.