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ER formula has been changed a while ago so capers lost a lot of eff points. Even so though, ER is a dying formula and WN formulas are replacing it big time, mostly due to fact it also punishes low tier only players.
For comparison, old ER of my T1c is 2700, new ER of my T1c is 1900, and WN7 of my T1c is 1000. Guess I don't seal clubs good enough according to WN but my point is what it punishes.

As for reasons to see how skilled are others, it's as Narubian said, but that can be a double edged sword as well. For example, you see an excellent player is in your team, so you decide to help him out instead of that red eff noob. And then it turns out that the excellent player is actually someone that sold his account to a person playing its 5th game of WoT, while the red eff noob is father playing on his 5 year old account, while on his real account he is a member of PTS or OMNI. And you just lost cause you helped the wrong guy, looking at some numbers only, not paying attention to where they're actually going and what they're actually doing.

 

that depends on who shoots me. If it's in TC or CW, oh hell yes I'll rage quit, while if it's a random... well then, what I like to do is point my gun at him, but I don't fire. That tends to provoke a second shot, or a third one, and then he turns blue. That's when my gun opens fire, and so do a few others usually

 

Very much so no. If you don't like it when arty strikes you from the sky, you sure as hell won't like it when this happens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hl0l5MY_QM

 

Kazna actually doesn't play under Serbian flag, they're registered as international team cause one of their players is Croatian.

 

Another one from the Matrix
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yeah, that was the point

You focused on how exaggerated my sarcasm was, and missed the entire point of it, but I'll get to that later. For this part of your post, I'll just say that with your logic, Farmville is better game than both WoT and LoL. It has more people that find it fun.

This is precisely why I'm against using sheer number of people that find the game fun as an argument in a debate. Oh and btw, the numbers are not so much on LoL's side as Super and you try to put it. I can't find the official number for LoL, but assuming what Super wrote is the correct number (65 million), that's just 5 million above the number of WoT's players according to official sources (checked on wikipedia) . LoL is around for 1 year more in entire world, and 2 years in entire world minus Russia.

I agree with everything except for the marked words - No, it's not all about fun, it's about fun too, it factors in too. But fun is something that comes naturally when you create a good game. It's not a factor that makes the game good, it's the consequence of how good and appealing game is to an individual. It's like comparing 2 racecars in a race and claiming that car 1 is better than car 2 cause more people like to see it win. Completely disregarding the reasons why people want to see the car 1 win, one of them being, car 1 is worse and people want to support the underdog? Or maybe car 1 reminds them of a car they own while car 2 does not, it's some fancy foreign car likes of which they haven't seen before (reference to MOBA vs MMO tank game genres, MOBA's are here pretty much since DOTA (and maybe before too, I don't know) , while MMO tanks are a new concept on their own, therefore had to fight for their own supporter base) . And then the car 2 wins the race. Why? It was faster, handled better, was built better... it was a better car overall, though less people liked it.

Back to games, as I previously said, if you wanna determine which game is better, compare the games where they're comparable, see which game is better at those areas, and you'll get the better game

And by the way, if we followed your logic of fun and only fun matters, there wouldn't even be a debate. Games would be ranked according to number of players that play them, since it's safe to assume people play what they think is fun. Perhaps we'd only use the number of players the game had at its peak to avoid the old vs new game fight where new game will win for sure cause more people play it now. And that would be it. No debate, no discussion, no anything. Sorry, not how this is going to work.

already answered to this above

there's no such thing as debating personal feelings. I don't doubt LoL is more fun for you, and there's nothing we can debate about here. This is precisely why the debate is not about which game is better for YOU, but which game is better, overall

If the game is better in every feature, except some parts, unless those parts are major and extremely important for those games, the game will be more fun. Fun is a product of the game, it's not embedded in it, so no it does not determine what game is better, it is just more likely to appear at the better game.

that would be the personal feeling of an individual. Personal feelings of an individual do not determine which game is better overall, they determine which game appeals more to the said individual.
One of my favorite games is Command & Conquer Red Alert 2, in my eyes it beats almost every other game ever made. That does not make it one of the best games ever made.

Actually, you're the one that's wrong here, and let me tell you why as well.
If the question was which game was better for you, there would be no debate at all. Wot is better game for me, Lol is better game for you. What are your arguments that Wot isn't better game for me?

In the end, it wouldn't be a debate, it would be a popularity contest of how many people here prefer which game. And popularity contest is not a debate, it's a simple poll. And just cause this particular debate has a poll attached to it does not make this particular debate a popularity contest

On the other hand, when the question is "what is the better game", we can then state arguments about said games, compare them, and come to a conclusion through a discussion, whether that conclusion is "agree that we disagree", "wot is better", "lol is better" . That's what a debate is, so can we please move on now from this to actually debating the games now?

Nope, I just refuse to discuss them, precisely cause I acknowledge that everyone has their own opinion. Opinions are not discussable (example: my opinion, red alert 2 is one of top 3 games ever for me. Do discuss how it's not in my top 3), arguments are, bring those to this discussion and we will get somewhere.

Quality does not determine which game is better? Read this out loud. And listen how that sentence sounds well.
As for the better features, yeah, when the features are not comparable, it becomes irrelevant if they're better. Wot features better graphics than tetris (don't mention exaggerating, it's intended), it absolutely does not matter, these games can't be compared there. WoT and LoL though have several points that can be compared, and that's what's relevant.
I already answered what a debate is, as for your definition, it's incomplete, and it's only part of a debate. Yeah, it's stating arguments about the game, but not all arguments, comparable arguments, discussable argument, and objective arguments. Your opinions are not part of a debate, I can't debate the argument that you prefer lol, nor can I debate why you like lol. You can't debate the argument that I prefer wot, you can't tell me I don't like wot for the reasons I like it. I'm repeating myself here unfortunately, but it seems to be necessary

no you know what's really ridiculous? Quoting a part of what someone said, taking it out of context and then claiming it to be ridiculous cause of the new context given with the cut quote.

- and I forgot to add bug fixes, since it's pretty normal to me that each game update has several bug fixes included.

oh and btw

You're talking about the frequency of updates, claiming lol's updates are more frequent. I gave you an argument about wot's updates, their exact frequency and what happens in them, the only thing I didn't do is write the number of wot tanks and lol champions at game release, cause I do not know these numbers (however I can tell it's under 100 tanks for WoT) . I'm still waiting for a counterargument, that will prove my argument right or wrong. Feel free to provide one

 

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You know I often associate the name Kenshin with Uesugi Kenshin. I wonder if the name of the character Himura Kenshin is a deliberate choice.

 

Still if you picked flowers like me it wouldnt happen to you, so ye.... we will go next time on field not to city

 

I`ll vote for NO as well.

Maybe i will make a poll because Hawx is interested xD

 

Hawx, we should start a petition and gather subscriptions for that xD

 

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It could be a case but i dont think so.

 

Bombs and cannons on airplanes can have little penetration and damage, so it wouldnt affect tanks that much like in real world. WG dont need to be historical.

 

Yes we should. XD
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I wonder ? (part 38)

I wonder ? (part 38)

I wonder Do you respect all players?

 

I wonder ? (part 39)

I wonder ? (part 39)

I wonder what would you dou if sombady hacks your account?