Nidalee discussion

nidalee is a pretty shitty pick imo, there are far better champs on every possible role she can fill, so why pick a shitty champ when you can have someone actually useful in jungle, like amumu or wu.

 

Wow but she is now nerfed alittle

 

Wow i might start playing her in jungle

 

Looking At The Nidalee Rework

The Changes are:
General

[IMG]http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/4.10.2/img/passive/Nidalee_Passive.png
Passive – Prowl
MOVEMENT - Moving through brush increases Nidalee’s movement speed by 10% for 2 seconds, increased to 30% toward visible enemy champions within a range of 5500.
HUNTED - Damaging champions with Javelin Toss or Bushwhack marks them as ‘Hunted’ for 4 seconds, granting Nidalee vision of them, 30% increased movement speed toward them (within a range of 5500) and enhancing her next Takedown, Pounce, and Swipe against them.
Her passive is really quite good, as you can escape and chase very easily, and few champions parallel Nidalee’s level of mobility inside the jungle with Passive + W. The “Hunted†debuff makes her very hard to trade with if she lands a spear or you step in the wrong spot, and Nidalee players can abuse this with short trades that do a ton of damage.

Q – Javelin Toss

Nidalee tosses her javelin, dealing magic damage. If it exceeds her basic attack range it gains damage based on distance flown, up to a cap at 80% of its additional range.
HUNTED - Applies the ‘Hunted’ debuff to champions for 4 seconds
RANGE - 1500 units (damage caps out at 1300)
MINIMUM MAGIC DAMAGE - 50/75/100/125/150 (+0.4 ability power)
MAXIMUM MAGIC DAMAGE - 150/225/300/375/450 (+1.2 ability power)
COST - 50/60/70/80/90 mana
COOLDOWN - 6 seconds
WIDTH - Missile width 60 ⇒ 30
Nidalee’s spear should no longer make you cry, and is really only there for the sake of having Javelin Toss still exist. It does a fair amount of damage however is even harder to hit and isn’t as strong as abilities such as Lux’s Q or Morgana’s Q, however, Nidalee’s Q isn’t meant to be strong. This has changed her play a lot, as before you would play as a long range, mobile artillery unit where as now she takes on more of a bruiser role, with the ability to dive in and out for quick bursts of damage.
W – Bushwhack

Nidalee lays a Bushwhack trap. When an enemy springs the trap, they are revealed in addition to taking damage over 4 seconds.
HUNTED - Applies the ‘Hunted’ debuff to champions for 4 seconds
MAGIC DAMAGE - 20/40/60/80/100 + 12/14/16/18/20% current health (+1% per 50 ability power) over the duration of 4 seconds
DURATION - 2 minutes
COST - 40/45/50/55/60 mana
COOLDOWN - 17/15/13/11/9 seconds
CLARITY - Only affects one target per trap
This is a much more important ability now, as it gives better short-term trading potential, versus the old Armour and MR debuff that would allow you to trade well for a fair amount of time however did not allow her to pull out her now very-strong burst. Also means you’re good as dead when you’re being chased, as she gets a nice movement speed buff from her passive chasing you.

E – Primal Surge

Nidalee heals a target ally champion and grants them bonus attack speed for 7 seconds.
HEAL - 45/85/125/165/205 (+0.5 ability power)
ATTACK SPEED BONUS - 20/30/40/50/60% attack speed
COST - 60/80/100/120/140 mana
COOLDOWN - 12 seconds
More useful for the attack speed rather than the heal now, as you won’t build straight AP in order to stay alive when you’re using cougar form and the attack speed bonus is fairly high.

R – Aspect Of The Cougar

Nidalee transforms into a vicious cougar with the abilities Takedown, Pounce, and Swipe. Rawr.
RANKS - Aspect of the Cougar has 4 ranks and Nidalee starts the game with 1 rank in it
COST - No cost
COOLDOWN - 3 seconds
Hooray! You start the game off with this ability, giving Nidalee fairly strong pre-6 waveclear, at least in melee range. She’s also now harder to gank as she can use Pounce early on.
Q – Takedown

Nidalee’s next attack deals magic damage. Takedown deals additional damage to targets at lower health, up to 250% total damage.
HUNTED BONUS - The first Takedown targeting a ‘Hunted’ champion deals +33% increased damage
UTILITY - Nidalee gains +75 attack range for the Takedown attack
MINIMUM MAGIC DAMAGE - 4/20/50/90 (+0.24 ability power) (+1.0 attack damage)
MAXIMUM MAGIC DAMAGE - 10/50/125/225 (+0.6 ability power) (+2.5 attack damage)
COST - No cost
COOLDOWN - 5 seconds
Always has been a strong execute, previously combined with Triforce, which I assume can still work, however, I haven’t done extensive testing on each build path. It does much more damage than many players think, and can surprise many a Riven or similar player by being able to effectively match/beat their quick bursts of damage with Nidalee’s own. For instance, Riven needs to use her passive to have an optimal trade, while Nidalee if she lands a Spear or Trap she will be able to jump in and hit Q, then leave. Following up with a heal, Nidalee’s lane trading abilities, especially against Melee champions is incredibly strong.
W – Pounce

Nidalee lunges forward a short distance, dealing magic damage to enemies in the landing area.
HUNTED BONUS -The first Pounce directly towards a ‘Hunted’ champions will have up to 700 range
UTILITY - Killing a unit in cougar form reduces the cooldown of Pounce to 1 second
UTILITY - Nidalee now pounces in the direction of the player’s cursor
MAGIC DAMAGE - 50/100/150/200 (+0.3 ability power)
COST - No cost
COOLDOWN - 5 seconds
She has a more dangerous playstyle now, as killing a unit reduces the CD, essentially giving you a free, albeit short-ranged escape if you grab a kill. She also pounces in cursor direction, meaning you can jump walls without turning into a 90 degree angle like Riven or Fizz have to do with their Q and E abilities, respectively. The extra range on a pounce toward a Hunted champion gives her even more chasing potential, adding to the whole “hunter†theme, which gives her very good solo kill pressure as she is both able to easily escape and chase those that try to do so.
E – Swipe

Nidalee claws at enemies, dealing magic damage in an area in front of her.
HUNTED BONUS -The first Swipe that damages a ‘Hunted’ champion reduces the cooldown of Pounce to 1 second
UTILITY - Nidalee now swipes in the direction of the player’s cursor
MAGIC DAMAGE - 70/130/190/250 (+0.45 ability power)
COST - No cost
COOLDOWN - 5 seconds
This also reduces Pounce’s cooldown, adding to a semi-ridiculous level of mobility. The damage isn’t ridiculous by any means, however, since you can use it early it aids Nidalee’s waveclear before she hits level 6 greatly.
R – Aspect Of The Cougar

Nidalee transforms back into a human. Meow.
RANKS - Aspect of the Cougar has 4 ranks and Nidalee starts the game with 1 rank in it
COST - No cost
COOLDOWN - 3 seconds[/IMG]

 

Buffs to Nidalee


Base Health increased from 370 to 390
Base Armor increased from 15 to 17

Prowl [ Passive ]
In addition to the movement speed bonus from moving through brush, Nidalee now receives 10% Movement Speed while on a Hunt. If she’s moving towards a Hunted target, the bonus is increased to 30%

Primal Surge [ Human E ]
Mana Cost reduced from 60/80/100/120/140 to 50/65/80/95/110

Pounce [ Cougar W ]
Range on Hunted Pounce increased from 700 to 750
nstead of jumping 150 units next to the side of the target that’s opposite of Nidalee, Hunted Pounce will jump 75 units in front of where it’s facing

 

Yeah we know that...

 

Yeah she passive is so good now,q is now ok,and ult on 1 lvl i good eazy farm...

 

well i like now W (jump) on tiger form

 

I played her in jungle and dominated the game solely because enemy team didn't focus well. She's good jungler if you have bunch of CC top and mid laners and pref. tanky support, otherwise, she'd be useless both in laning phase and teamfights.

I found it necessary to build Raylis to get slow right after jungle item, then went for Voids and Hourglass. More dmg is unnecessary if your team is half decent, so I'd go for spirit visage for dem heals.
And traps as "mini wards" are not really necessary. I rather trap bushes and ways to dragon/braon/buffs. Then you can steal it when someone is going for it.

Anyhow, it's not bad in some team compositions, but in most, is very bad. XD

 

I thinks its bad..

 

Yes so op,idk why people don't ban her now

 

Yes, she is so strong as a bruiser or toplaner now, full ap useless.. no more q spam

 

well it has a good and a bad fase the good 1 is during the laning faze cuz her q is smaller in with but in the teamfight it is harder 2 hit the q

 

Nidalee rework ?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_xvauR49Tw
Hhaahah
What are u guys think what is better old nidalee or new nidalee ?

 

huh new one ofc :d

 

New one is more like fighter

 

For me old nidalee

 

Play AD Nidelee, so good!

 

Nice dmg

 

wow , this is funny ;D