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Softer Reset?

Discussion in 'Ogre Wars' started by ogreman, Nov 16, 2014.

What Type of Reset Should Ogre Wars Have?

  1. Soft, where just the teams change to make them even.

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    20.0%
  2. Soft, where just a few of the best get slightly better starts.

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  3. Soft, where all active players from the previous season start a little better.

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  4. Hard, where all players start the same as normal on equal teams.

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    26.7%
  5. Hard, everybody starts at zero and teams are balanced based on numbers alone.

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  1. Aaddron

    Aaddron Moderator Staff Member GameOgre Moderator

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    *Speaking purely on what the game is today, right now, no changes*

    The problem is it's practically impossible to catch up in Ogre Wars, we all keep saying it's possible through cooperation but then every season someone gets on top and no one is ever able to catch them. Since the game has no way to actually lose strength you can only make up ground by generating more gold than them.

    Realistically assuming they don't stop playing that is impossible as why would someone stronger than you purposely give up his/her advantage? Our excuse was always well the other people could attack and then this one person builds above ... but that doesn't work as it has a super limited window before the stronger person can just fight all of you on his/her own as we've seen many times.

    It's just how it works, the game is flawed. A soft reset giving an advantage to active players this season sounds good in theory but it'll just handicap everyone else. It'd have to be a pretty small and equal advantage otherwise the season could easily be over before it started.
     
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    arZ Banned The Pit

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    Agree with Aaddron ... so I think the soft reset is ... I say useless.
    Hard reset would be much more fun ... all players start form 0.
     
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    arZ Banned The Pit

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    Agree with Aaddron ... so I think the soft reset is ... I say useless.
    Hard reset would be much more fun ... all players start form 0.
     
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    brankomiljus20 Ogre Warlord Ogre Veteran

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    Also u can reward most active players (with medal or points mby) and start new season from start
     
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    brankomiljus20 Ogre Warlord Ogre Veteran

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    Also u can reward most active players (with medal or points mby) and start new season from start
     
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    For that matter, could reset everybody back to 0. Is that better?

    Unless somebody is going to run it and try to convince people to play again instead of retiring etc that I get after every single season, not big on the idea of releasing all the players and going through that again. Have something similar on Forum Events and it is not fun at all. I just have too much on my plate for that right now. The ending of last season did not scream a big demand for that anyway:).

    Was mainly trying to avoid that while at the same time trying to find ways to improve the game using that. In other words, trying to turn a weakness into a strength:).
     
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    For that matter, could reset everybody back to 0. Is that better?

    Unless somebody is going to run it and try to convince people to play again instead of retiring etc that I get after every single season, not big on the idea of releasing all the players and going through that again. Have something similar on Forum Events and it is not fun at all. I just have too much on my plate for that right now. The ending of last season did not scream a big demand for that anyway:).

    Was mainly trying to avoid that while at the same time trying to find ways to improve the game using that. In other words, trying to turn a weakness into a strength:).
     
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    I think soft reset will cause more issues than hard reset and I dont think any of them matter it will end up same result as previous.
     
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    I think soft reset will cause more issues than hard reset and I dont think any of them matter it will end up same result as previous.
     
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    Oh I could do a hard reset where everybody starts from scratch:). Will put up a poll though to get a further idea though.
     
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    Oh I could do a hard reset where everybody starts from scratch:). Will put up a poll though to get a further idea though.
     
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    I don't see any issue with resetting to 0 as a alternative to a hard reset aside from maybe the current player numbers are quite skewed towards the Ironheads but it's kinda a fluff number as I'm sure many are inactive anyways. Bonuses for active players isn't completely a problem either as long as they aren't too large.
     
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    I don't see any issue with resetting to 0 as a alternative to a hard reset aside from maybe the current player numbers are quite skewed towards the Ironheads but it's kinda a fluff number as I'm sure many are inactive anyways. Bonuses for active players isn't completely a problem either as long as they aren't too large.
     
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    Inactive players will be moved to eliminate the skewing that occurred last season. They would not stop signing up for the Ironheads despite making a few moves during the season lol.

    Starting at zero will probably make anybody not active a non-factor for the season.
     
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    Inactive players will be moved to eliminate the skewing that occurred last season. They would not stop signing up for the Ironheads despite making a few moves during the season lol.

    Starting at zero will probably make anybody not active a non-factor for the season.
     
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    Ok, could use more votes:).
     
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    Ok, could use more votes:).
     
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    Unless ogreman has since gained the power to alter player weapon/armor count, a soft reset to zero is about as useful as any other soft reset: negligibly so, except to remove the inactive players from the top and make it a bit less likely people will complain about not being able to quit the game. If armor/weapons can be removed as well, sure, resetting everyone to zero that way is effectively the same as a hard reset would be anyway.

    Any reset that leaves long-term players with their accumulated items is not a reset, it's an excuse to make them use turns on troops instead of gold and to bring inactive players further down the list.
     
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    Unless ogreman has since gained the power to alter player weapon/armor count, a soft reset to zero is about as useful as any other soft reset: negligibly so, except to remove the inactive players from the top and make it a bit less likely people will complain about not being able to quit the game. If armor/weapons can be removed as well, sure, resetting everyone to zero that way is effectively the same as a hard reset would be anyway.

    Any reset that leaves long-term players with their accumulated items is not a reset, it's an excuse to make them use turns on troops instead of gold and to bring inactive players further down the list.
     
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    Well, that may be a point, unfortunately. Will see what can be done and go from there:). May have to go further in the DB because it is stored somewhere.

    I am open to anything minus the complete reset.
     
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