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Discussion in 'Triple Triad' started by vyeh, Apr 1, 2010.

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    ufbre World of Tanks Fan Ogre Veteran

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    WoT - Leopard prototyp A - Base defence
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    WoT - Leopard prototyp A - Base defence / Obrana základny - YouTube
    Leopard prototyp A is one of those tanks you need to find out how to play with it or it'll be real pain in the arse. There is few papermade tanks, but Leoprad did rule them all, because you can count only with some lucky bounces on extreme angles. Even thought it is T9 medium it has almost no chance in close combats because with top gun mounted your reload time is 10s+, but thanks to its gun you can do great job as a support tank from distance.
     
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    In my opinion World of Warplanes is missing something. The core elements outside of gameplay are typical Wargaming... good, maybe a little odd in small ways but the UI and menus etc are all pretty decent. Upgrades look good, payment model looks fine... it's a pretty decent package all around. I think the issue is in the Gameplay. I don't know what it is exactly but I just don't get that wow factor.

    Granted I think the gameplay is solid and it's still beta as well so maybe things will change but I'm not entirely convinced. I'm not really getting flashes of greatness... I don't feel like OK I can see it... it just feels "solid"... plain, maybe a little cookie cutter. Something is off.

    Now I'm not the biggest flight fan but I do enjoy games like these normally... I haven't played one in a while before jumping into World of Warplanes so I initially thought maybe it was just me... and then I played War Thunder. I'm not gonna go into a whole War Thunder vs WoWp but suffice to say War Thunder brought all them awesome flight game memories back, I've had more fun in just 5 matches of War Thunder than in the entire time I've played WoWp.

    Why though? War Thunder take heavy ques from World of Tanks and thus is quite similar to WoWp so why does it feel so different. When I play War Thunder I feel like I'm in an epic plane war, I don't get that feeling in WoWp. My initial thoughts are map size and design, and you only get 1 life.

    Everytime I play WoWp the battle pretty much always gets spread out... you start spread out, you play spread out... it's usually no more than a few other planes in your immediate vicinity as the battle goes on people quickly go down drastically reducing the number of planes ... this spreads out people even more and breaks up the fighting which in turn diminishes that epic battle feeling.

    In War Thunder you get 3 planes and the maps seem more condensed, everyone is kept more together... still plenty of room to breathe but the next target and teammate is never far off this make a much more fun environment and feels a lot more like them CG WoWP trailers :p... it feels like an epic air war.

    War Thunder is far from perfect and I'd much rather play WoWP... this is not to get people to try War Thunder rather to me War Thunder is really fun and WoWP is not... they are practically the same game, so how can they be so different? I don't think I'm the only one that feels it's missing something either... the open beta servers seem pretty empty at least on the NA side, this should be one of the biggest times for the game... it's very odd. I don't maybe it just doesn't match my tastes.

    What do you guys think of the game?
     
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    Aaddron Moderator Staff Member GameOgre Moderator

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    Points added :)
     
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    WoT Screenshots - 10
     
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    ufbre World of Tanks Fan Ogre Veteran

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    nice color of the tank
     
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    Well I haven't tried Warthunder so can't really compare WoWp to that one, but I can say a lot about WoWp itself.

    Yes the UI is there, yes the interface is getting there, yes the game visually look very impressive with high graphics. The gameplay itself is actually very fine too, the way planes shoot and damage each other... at first I was skeptical about planes with hit points, but after a while I got it's really good that they have them and that it's done well, so what's the problem then?

    Well, if you want to have an epic battle, the battle needs to last more than approximately 4 minutes. You need to have a whole build up to battle, and no that doesn't mean 30 seconds of planes hovering, then 20 seconds of reaching the target and then instantly being dropped into a fight, which lasts for anything from a few seconds to a minute or two, it all goes by so fast that by the time it's done, you don't feel much was accomplished, you just did some fast paced shooting, maybe got a few enemies down and moved on. This is arcadeish, this is quick fun, and this is by no means an epic battle, nor it has a chance to be one. Not while the maps are so small at least, and not while the point of the game is to have lots of action, quick.

    Another element that's missing is teamplay, even when you try hardest to achieve it, you can do so little. For example, me and Hawx usually fly together, one of us takes a bomber, other a fighter, and covers the bomber. However, as soon as we engage a single plane and fighter starts dealing with it, even if its successful, by the time the enemy is downed, the bomber is already across the map so it would be harmful to go back to cover it instead of engaging near targets + the bomber is probably already dead cause another fighter came in the meantime and took it out easily.
    And lets not even mention 2 fighters playing together. In reality, most fighters had their wingman, and the idea was that the main fighter engages an enemy target, while the wingman covers him. Here, it's pretty much impossible cause things are so hectic and happens so fast that tracking your wingman is just never going to happen.

    Also, the cameras available are done so poorly that you actually do not want to have anyone from your team near you, cause you can only see so little when in sniper mode, if you have anyone besides you, above you, bellow you, you're not going to see it till you crash into each other, and this has been made even worse since the last patch cause now if you have someone near you, you can expect your plane to start acting like an UFO with a drunk pilot. But ok, lets call that a bug till the next patch, and forgive them for that one if they remove it. It still won't change the fact that having a friendly near you is a bad thing in WoWp, and that just makes the game outright stupid.

    As it is right now, it's a game excellent for quick and solo fun, if you want to have some fast shooting that will look nice, wowp is your choice, but if you're looking for epicness, forget about it. WoT never provided us with epic tank battles either, but you got at least a bit better feeling when it comes to epicness cause the battles there are slower paced to start with, and are usually not over within 3 minutes of start.

    What WoWp needs to become epic is much bigger maps, much better camera settings, and much less arcade hectic feeling, but I seriously doubt we're ever going to get that. That doesn't mean the game is bad, it's rather fun and does its arcade plane fights well (if we disregard the numerous bugs)
     
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    Oh yes it can get quite laggy, especially if several planes are shooting in close proximity, my own plane refuses to start firing then. And as of this patch it also refuses to go where I move it. So yeah, the game keeps getting worse with each patch unfortunately, despite all the nice content they added, like yaks and crews and barracks
     
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    As i like to say: Changes are always bad.
    Ps. I managed to dodge two kamikazes today. XD
     
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    And I managed to end up crashed in the pacific again today, due to the fact my plane decided a 90 degree turn to the right should in fact be a 180 degree dive into the water cause oh no, another plane was near
     
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    That does not necessarily mean that you will get researched 900 hp engine, if you did not researched engine of 1200hp now.
     
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    Because it is. XD
    But its still bad tank, unlike matilda or t-28.

    Polan y u no read my post?

    Tier 10 is the same as T-62a, with minor differences (the same gun, armor....).
     
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    Dont have any more free slots, nor i plan to play them any time soon or at all. So i say: Meh.
     
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    My definition of epic is different than yours, I don't need big, long battles. I think that makes it worse in some ways as if you don't have the time it's just not gonna be fun especially with arcade gameplay.

    That's my problem, it's not a good arcade plane shooter, it's solid but it's not much more. As you said WoWP will likely never target that sim crowd but as a arcade game it's quite boring. The majority of arcade players will want action, these players have the attention spans of squirrels. When I compare that to what I'm playing I can't see them liking this game... it doesn't work and I think it shows with the low amount of players playing the beta (again at least in NA).
     
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    I <3 Batman and Superman.
     
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    Does anyone has one left?
     
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