Triple Triad forum dupes - please ignore

Is it the German engines going bye bye?

 

Im in Ogreman. Thanks

 

Quite the contrary, I base my opinion on facts. I don't think you're wrong, I know you are wrong, based on facts, not on my opinion. Yes my opinion got formed by those facts, and that's all.

I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but if in my opinion 1+1 = 5 , well, there's a mathematician out there that can tell me with every right that my opinion is wrong.

Ok, so lets try like this. Simulation is meant to simulate something from real world, hence the name, while arcade is trying to make a fun representation of that. If we can agree on that, lets move on to:

In real world aerial combat, your plane would take off from an airfield, fly for anything in between 0 (in case your airfield happens to be under attack) and several thousand kilometers (in case you're flying a long distance bomber or a bomber escort) , then engage the target (only counting flights in which you actually got to engage the target) and you did not do this in a small area roughly 200 square kilometers, you start a fight at one point and by the time you shoot down someone or get shot down, you can be anywhere from 0 to several hundred kilometers. The battleground for a real life dogfight was enormous.

So, if you want to make a simulation, you're going to make an enormous battleground (sounds pretty much like what warthunder has) , and if you want to make an arcade, you'll reduce it to something small (what wowp has) . Smaller you make it, more you move in the direction of the arcade.

Please, correct if I'm wrong about any of this.

Second of all, you would not get more action with reducing the size of the maps, they already tried that, that's how we got the current map sizes. The result of map size reduction was
1: faster action
2: shorter action
Sky is a big place in reality, it offers a lot of action cause you've got that much space to move around in. When you don't have that much much space, you get to fight and end up circling for half the time before killing all or getting killed, that's what you have in WoWp. Making maps even smaller would do that.

Your comparison with city sim and race sim does not work in this case for the simple reason that it has nothing to do with what we're talking about here. Smaller maps are opposite of what real life aerial combat consisted of, races with more cars are not opposite to reality. However, if you in your simulation with 12 cars added the fact that cars can suddenly reach 490km/h like a certain NFS game did (I seriously forgot the name, but I'll never forget taking a Corvette to 490km/h on a highway) then your simulator would go more arcade like, because there is no corvette that can reach almost 500km/h.

Then I would suggest you reconsider your proposal that would in fact make it more arcade, based on previous experiences and facts.
As for simulation, go for IL-2 1946, probably the best flight simulation ever made

Better map design would help for sure, but smaller maps were tried and it already failed once, you weren't around to test it back then, I have and I'm just telling you my experience, and not just mine, I'm fairly active on EU WoWp beta tester forums and I know fully well how the community reacted to small maps - collective facepalm.

In my opinion, when someone says something wrong, correcting it is in no way rude. It would be rude if I threw in an insult or two towards the person that said something wrong into it, however I have not done that.

Yes and no. Yes when it's used to diminish or belittle the person you're talking with, not when it's meant to state a fact.
Example :
"It's obvious 1 + 1 = 2" - is arrogant, diminishes the person that claimed it was in fact 3 by trying to make it look 1 + 1 = 2 is something that everybody knows
"It's obvious 1 + 1 = 2 because of the following facts..." - is not arrogant at all.

I didn't say that you're plainly wrong, I said your statement is plainly wrong and I'm pretty sure I did a lot of explaining why.

Aha, so you're trying to say that WT has managed to make maps that are 19x larger, actually feel smaller than WoWp maps.

Well, assuming you're correct since you played both, that either means WoWp has managed to make 200 square km maps look enormous, or that WT has managed to make 4225 square km maps look tiny. And from my year of playing WoWp, and 10+ years of playing IL2 franchise games, which actually has WT size maps (and larger) , I'm going to have to say that WoWp did not make its maps look enormous.

So WT managed to make its maps more action packed and fun while they're in fact much larger maps than what WoWp has. This is telling me the problem of WoWp is not the fact that maps are too large, but in fact too small, but that there's also something else in gameplay that WT has, and which makes it able to bring so much action in so large maps. Since you have played WT, you're far more competent than me to say what is it.

So far, you've called me rude, arrogant, impossible to have a discussion with, added that it's not just you but others have issues with me too and you added that grow up bit at the end.

 

Well I did all I could to get it, now it's the only the question whether I was in the first 20 that did it so far I know for sure that 5 people did it before me as they posted their entries on the wowp forums prior to me making mine, but there could be countless others that didn't post on the forums.

Anyway, even if I don't win now, I'll try next time too, in 2 weeks when the next follow the leader video is supposed to show up, and when you can try too

 

My entry for the recent WoWp screenshot contest, made in cooperation with Hawx

 

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http://www.gameogre.com/forums/worl...d-warplanes-missing-something.html#post485306
http://www.gameogre.com/forums/world-tanks/35847-developer-q-22nd-august-2013-a.html#post485349
http://www.gameogre.com/forums/world-tanks/35843-i-wonder-part-43-a.html#post485379
http://www.gameogre.com/forums/world-tanks/35847-developer-q-22nd-august-2013-a.html#post485404
http://www.gameogre.com/forums/world-tanks/35847-developer-q-22nd-august-2013-a.html#post485419

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http://www.gameogre.com/forums/world-tanks/35848-developer-q-23rd-august-2013-a.html
http://www.gameogre.com/forums/world-tanks/35849-developer-q-24th-august-2013-a.html

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Well in that case I'm in too

 

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i want to try 2
i am not so good with reviews but i will try to give my best.

 

wow 10 : 0 hi hi

 

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At this moment I am not sure.
I voted for not sure.